I’m a recovering intelligence officer. I’m always a recovering intelligence officer for one trauma or another. And I’ve had the benefit, the pleasure, the honor to apply a lot of those skills I use in defense of our nation in the commercial section and in the commercial world as well, rising all the way to chief operating officer of a company that I thought was pretty obscure.

Whether I’m a nation state targeting data, whether I’m a criminal enterprise targeting data, or a transnational organization targeting that, that data is valuable. And while it’s valuable to me, there is a negative externality to the people that I’m taking it from as well. It’s not a victimless crime, right?

Anybody ever watch storage wars?
You can go on the dark web and buy drives like you were buying a storage unit. “I’ll give you a thousand dollars for that storage unit”. I know there’s got to be a couple thousand bucks worth of stuff in it. Your data out there is the same way.